Penn & Teller would never lie to you.

OK … that’s a lie. But what they do is more than that. Despite the title of their upcoming Discovery series (Penn & Teller: Tell A Lie, due in October), Penn & Teller are modern masters of deception.

The duo honed their craft for more than 35 years, doing everything from Vegas headlining to Letterman, best selling books to multiple TV series. If you blink around these guys, you’ve missed it. So host Adam Rogers kept both eyes open as he sat with Penn & Teller to talk about their new series, deception as an art form and composition versus performance.

And that’s no lie, they both talked. For performance purposes however, Adam reads the part of Teller on occasion. The duo can’t reveal all their tricks after all. Even in audio form, they still put on a show.